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. >>> joining me now, civil rights leader and president of the rainbow push coalition, reverend jesse jackson. awfully glad to speak with you. you listened to president clinton. do you agree he belongs in the statues of history with gandhi, martin luther king jr. if not maybe at the top of the list? >> external persecution and the wil will, dignity. they were driven by their suffering. you define them by what they did with the pain. that is to say when mr. mandela chose to use his pain for transformation. to use his pain for reconciliation, revenge or retaliation it took him to different level. >> what was it like to be in the same room as he was. oftentimes there are leaders -- and i will say this is applied to you as well. there are some people you think they take up all the energy because there's something about them. he must have had that as well. >> well, he did have a personal magnetism. i remember the first sunday he came out of jail in cape town at south africa at city hall. he walked in the room. having been in jail for 27 years, so aware and so alert. we embraced. he recogni
. >>> joining me now, civil rights leader and president of the rainbow push coalition, reverend jesse jackson. awfully glad to speak with you. you listened to president clinton. do you agree he belongs in the statues of history with gandhi, martin luther king jr. if not maybe at the top of the list? >> external persecution and the wil will, dignity. they were driven by their suffering. you define them by what they did with the pain. that is to say when mr. mandela chose to use...
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so without that 1965 voting rights act, which is a direct product of the civil rights movement, mr. obama's presidency does not exist. they're bound together by that same issue and the activism that was required in order to make -- >> that's a good point. >> in addition to the comparisons between the two of them, which is important, i think the other remarkable thing is the thread of liberty that connects them across space and time. the abolitionist improvement inspired thorough who inspired gandhi who inspired mandela. it's remarkable to see this thread of liberty that really comes full circle in the life of mandela and how he relates to barack obama. >> joshua, what if anything do we know about nelson mandela's faith? was he a spiritual man? >> he was a spiritual man. he was a christian. and that was sort of a motivating part of his life. and there's been a fair amount written on that, especially over the last few days. but i think he really saw his faith as a motivating force for his work in the public square, not just as something he keeps inside his own soul but something that
so without that 1965 voting rights act, which is a direct product of the civil rights movement, mr. obama's presidency does not exist. they're bound together by that same issue and the activism that was required in order to make -- >> that's a good point. >> in addition to the comparisons between the two of them, which is important, i think the other remarkable thing is the thread of liberty that connects them across space and time. the abolitionist improvement inspired thorough who...
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the country was potentially on the brink of civil war. >> reporter: the violence peaks on easter sunday 1993 when a high-ranking anc member is shot outside his home by a white right-wing polish immigrant. >> there was uproar in the country. riots. >> reporter: the country finds itself in a moment of crisis. de klerk and the government are unable to keep the peace. there was only one man who could pull the nation back from the abyss. mandela addresses the country on national television. >> tonight why i'm reaching out to every single south african, black and white, now is the time for all south africans to stand together. >> only he could control the country in a crisis. and effectively, he was president from then on. de klerk was eclipsed. >> reporter: negotiations proceed, building towards a momentous event. >> the first time they were called for dignity was on the 7th of april, 1994. >> reporter: for the first time in its almost 400-year history, south africans from all races will be allowed to vote. >> april 27th arrived with a huge question mark, whether the elections will be held i
the country was potentially on the brink of civil war. >> reporter: the violence peaks on easter sunday 1993 when a high-ranking anc member is shot outside his home by a white right-wing polish immigrant. >> there was uproar in the country. riots. >> reporter: the country finds itself in a moment of crisis. de klerk and the government are unable to keep the peace. there was only one man who could pull the nation back from the abyss. mandela addresses the country on national...
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rights and corruption violations. their arrests stem from a two-year federal probe into alleged corruption within the largest jail system. four grand jury indictments and criminal complaint allege that the deputies among other things beat inmates and beat visitors and falsified and attempted to obstruct the fbi's probe. >> the deputies altered records to make it appear the informant had been released but they only rebooked him into custody under a different name and moved him to an isolated corner of the detention system. >> as the "l.a. times" puts it, this marks the largest mass arrest of sheriff's officials in more than two decades and represents another blow to a department that recently has been accused of racially biased profiling and hiring officers with tainted backgrounds and cronyism. jack leonard joins me live now. first of all, how far back do these allegations go? >> this scandal has been going on for two and a half years. it all started with a cell phone smuggled into the jail to an informant who was wor
rights and corruption violations. their arrests stem from a two-year federal probe into alleged corruption within the largest jail system. four grand jury indictments and criminal complaint allege that the deputies among other things beat inmates and beat visitors and falsified and attempted to obstruct the fbi's probe. >> the deputies altered records to make it appear the informant had been released but they only rebooked him into custody under a different name and moved him to an...